Explanation

  • To discuss topics related to one's work, business, or profession, especially in a social setting where such conversation might be considered inappropriate or boring to others.

Origin

  • Dates back to the mid-19th century.
  • Shop historically referred to a place of work or trade (workshop, print shop, etc.).
  • Talking shop meant discussing the affairs of one's trade.

Alternatives

Slang/Informal:

  • Nerd out about work (Implies enthusiasm, less negative than 'talk shop' can sometimes be)
  • Geek out over [work topic]
  • Talking work stuff

Vulgar/Emphatic:

  • Not commonly expressed with vulgarity, as it's usually a mild social faux pas. Perhaps indirectly: Are they still fucking talking about work?

Milder/Formal:

  • Discuss professional matters
  • Converse about our occupations

Situational Appropriateness

  • Informal to semi-formal.
  • Often used to gently signal that work conversation is inappropriate for the current social setting (e.g., party, dinner, weekend).
  • Can be neutral if used descriptively (We spent an hour talking shop).

Misunderstanding Warnings

  • Generally straightforward. Non-native speakers might not immediately grasp that it often implies the conversation is happening in an inappropriate (social) context.

Examples

  • Let's not talk shop at dinner; we need a break.
  • The engineers were talking shop about the latest software update.
  • Sorry, we tend to talk shop whenever we get together.

Dialogue

Anna: ...and then the Q3 projections came in lower than expected, mainly due to the supply chain issues we discussed...

Mark: (Interrupting gently) Hey, guys, can we not talk shop tonight? Let's just relax.

Chloe: Oh, yeah, sorry Mark. You're right. Did anyone try that new restaurant downtown yet?

Anna: Good call. No shop talk! I heard the pasta there is amazing.

Social Media Examples

  • Twitter: Met up with some old colleagues. Tried not to, but ended up talking shop for an hour. #worklife #networking
  • Facebook status: Rule for tonight's BBQ: No talking shop! Let's just enjoy the summer. ☀️
  • Instagram caption (photo of friends): Great catching up with these folks! Managed to avoid talking shop... mostly 😉.

Response Patterns

If someone suggests *not* talking shop:

  • Agreement: You're right, let's change the subject., Good idea., Agreed.
  • Mild protest/Explanation: Oh, sorry, force of habit.

If someone observes others talking shop:

  • Neutral observation: Looks like they're talking shop over there.
  • Mild complaint (to a third party): Are they ever going to stop talking shop?

Common Follow-up Questions/Actions

After suggesting not to talk shop:

  • Someone usually changes the subject: So, did you see the game last night?, How was your vacation?

After acknowledging talking shop:

  • The speakers might consciously switch topics.
  • Or, they might continue if the context allows (e.g., everyone present is in the same field).

Conversation Starter

  • No. It's a description of a type of conversation, or a request to stop it. Not an opener.

Intonation

  • Neutral tone generally.
  • Stress often falls on TALK and SHOP.
  • Can sometimes have a slightly apologetic or weary tone if used to stop the behavior (e.g., Enough talking shop!).

Generation Differences

  • Widely understood across generations. The social norms around when it's acceptable to talk shop might vary slightly, but the term itself is common.

Regional Variations

  • Common in most major English-speaking regions (US, UK, Canada, Australia, etc.).
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